Talk:Stephen Baldwin

Deletion of modifications
There has been many deletions of modifications made to this article. Any non-positively Christian comments have been deleted. This is entirely unacceptable. This is NOT Conservapaedia/Conservapedia. Wikipaedia/Wikipedia must be free. If this article has aspects which are not positive about Christianity deleted again, I will delete the whole article and report it to Wikipaedia/Wikipedia for locking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.31.15.112 (talk) 01:10, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You can't delete the article, only administrators can delete articles. If you blank it, you could be blocked. Semi-protection will only be needed if there are several people removing relevant info. Baldwin was nominated by his housemates and evicted from the Big Brother house because of his preaching, so it certainly should be in the article. In recent years his religion has become a major part of his life. Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 23:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * And what's with the *paedia pedantry? That has no part in Wikip's identity.

Repetition
In the 'private life' section it is mentioned and referenced that there is the site 'restorestephenbalwin.org' attempting to restore him, and there is also a separate section at the end of the article with the same sort of information. Someone who knows what they're doing ought to (is necessarily obliged to) delete the section at the end of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.150.77 (talk) 00:24, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

American actor?
What do you call an actor from anywhere else in the western hemisphere? Or have the people of the US preempted the word for their exclusive use? According to your own article the 'Americas' include Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Grenada, Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Jamaica, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Suriname, Trinidad and Tobago, United States, Uruguay, and Venezuela. Seems a bit of arrogant 'gringoism' to keep usurping this term over the other 30+ peoples who live there. I also see another article which is not so much an explanation as a defence - and it's certainly not shared by the peoples in the other 30+ countries who by the way greatly outnumber people in the US. Wikipedia should be about truth and peace and a good way to start would be at home by discouraging use of this imperialistic epithet.
 * Okay, (1) sign your posts, and (2) get over yourself. What would you have United States citizens call themselves collectively?  "United Statesians"?  It is universally accepted that people from the United States of America are called "Americans".  People from the other Western Hemisphere nations that you mention are called (by themselves and by others) Antiguans/Barbudans, Argentinians, Bahamians, Barbadoans, Belizeans, Bolivians, Brazilians, Canadians, Chileans, Colombians, Costa Ricans, Cubans, Dominicans, Ecuadorans, Hondurans, Jamaicans, Mexicans, Nicaraguans, Panamanians, Paraguayans, Peruvians, Kittitians/Nevisians, Saint Lucians, Vincentians, Salvadorans, Granadians, Guatemalans, Guyanese, Haitians, Surinamese, Trinidadian/Tobagonian, Uruguayans, and Venezuelans, as you would have known if you'd bothered to read any of the articles that you so painstakingly linked in your bombast.  Not one of them is known -- by themselves or by outsiders -- as "Americans" and never has been.  Your suggestion that any number of people is offended by the usage is an empty one.  The usage is convention and based in history: the United States was one of the first European colonies to achieve independence; most of the others you mention didn't become sovereign states until over 100 years later.  I suppose for your next troll trick you will be arguing that there aren't 24 hours in a day, or that the Earth doesn't revolve around the Sun. 71.200.138.188 (talk) 18:46, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Your use of the term 'gringo' is offensive, derogatory, and racist. As I myself have been told by other editors, this is unacceptable practice on Wikipedia. 75.71.141.40 (talk) 19:22, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Better picture
Anybody have a better public domain picture? The current one is horrible. Looks like it was taken with a security cam at a gym or something silly like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sacr1fyce (talk • contribs) 03:26, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Born-again Christian source?
Where did Mr. Baldwin say that he was a Born-again Christian? A link with a source would be useful here. I have searched the web but so far come up with nothing. --BenjaminHare 06:52, 2005 May 1 (UTC)

Check his book The Unusual Suspect for details on his conversion....it's all there.Danielsouthern (talk) 03:49, 23 August 2008 (UTC)Dan Southern

Don't worry, I'll just download the pdf file, check it, and then throw it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.138.105.38 (talk) 15:26, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

"Born-Again" answer For Stephen Baldwin
I have sourced an online article from "showbuzz," Reference #8 on the "Wiki" page, where SB is being interviewed about becoming a born-again Christian. I have also sourced the sentence that tells that SB was an accomplished opera singer in high school (Reference #4). I also sourced and filled out the section on SB's time on Celebrity Apprentice (Reference #11). --Canihaveacookie 19:32 p.m., CST, 3/25/'08

Re: Rightwing Christian views
http://www.stephenbaldwin.com/

Simply go to his website.

It is extremely well known and widely covered that Stephen Baldwin is a conservative Christian.

Stephen Baldwin runs a conservative Christian ministry aimed at young Americans 63.138.220.74 01:29, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Why did he leave the Roman Catholic Church? --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 23:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Here they are
http://www.4hurtingchristians.com/stephen_baldwin.html

or

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22Stephen+Baldwin%22+born-again+christian ('search the web' harder next time!)

Born-again Christian
It is a pretty well known fact. I even saw him speak at the Luis Palau Evangelistic Rally in St. Paul last year and he gave a testimony about his faith. It is referenced on his IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000286/bio --Borisborf 06:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

I've removed the to-do list, the cleanup tag, and the table, having found that the removal of the latter eliminated the need for the other two. Mackensen (talk) 23:28, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'd like to see some reliable sources for the claims that he's some disgusting born-again Christian with a Hannah Montana tattoo on his shoulder. This is just mean and irresponsible, as far as I'm concerned. Mardiste (talk) 03:02, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * He is a "born again" (evangelical) Christian. He left the Roman Catholic Church and became an evangelical.. I don't know why. Do we know what his family's response to his conversion was, as they are all Catholic? --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 23:31, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Most famous for The Usual Suspects?
Is it safe to say that his most famous role was as Michael McManus in The Usual Suspects?--BohicaTwentyTwo 14:29, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I think his persistent pervertedness and lewdness in conjunction with another "born-again Christian" Corbin Berntsen on the two Celebrity Moles takes that cake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.123.196.39 (talk • contribs)

Check your chronology. Stephen was indeed a very lewd individual before his conversion to Christ but has had a total transformation since 2002 when he had a dramatic life-change. Seems like we ought to give one another an opportunity to become a new person when it is a sincere personal experience. If we knew what went on behind the closed doors of even the most moderate critic, it would reveal a lot. Dan Southern danielsouthern (talk) 03:42, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

he got $150,000 for the role —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.7.253 (talk) 23:03, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Poorly written article
Not only is the content questionable, but this is a very poorly written article. The grammar and syntax are wildly awkward.


 * Duh, this is Wikipedia we're talking about.

Recent works
Should it be mentioned that he seems to be the king of the Sci Fi channel's "original movies" these days? In the past year, he must have starred in over a dozen Grade Z, badly filmed, badly acted, and badly directed monster-on-the-loose-killer-tornado-asteroids-from-space-time-travel flicks. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)


 * If you can find a source for that, it'd be good. -- Beardo (talk) 18:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Tagged for cleanup
I've tagged this article for clean up due to its poorly written nature, completely lack of information about Baldwin's early career, and excessive focus on his more recent Christian status. It is also lacking a lot of information normally found in articles about bigger name celebrities. AnmaFinotera 09:05, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Promise to leave America
I took this as a joking reference to his brother Alec's alleged promise to leave America if Bush was elected president in 2000. Does anyone else think the way the article addresses this issue is misleading? PubliusFL (talk) 16:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, when you watch the clip, it's evident that he's making a joking reference to his brother's supposed promise to leave. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)

Career
This currently concentrates on his Christian and celebrity activities. We need more on his actual acting career. -- Beardo (talk) 18:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh boy. I think he'd rather we didn't... Codenamemary (talk) 21:38, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Obama the Antichrist ?
"On October 30, 2008, Baldwin made an appearance on the Ron and Fez Show where he gave subtle hints that he believed that Barack Obama may be the Antichrist after an epiphany he had during an intense period of prayer and meditation, but was told by the Holy Spirit that his revelation is not to be spoken of. "

Was he serious - or was he joking ? -- Beardo (talk) 20:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Given the fact that Stephen Baldwin is mentally unstable, the general belief would have to be no, he was not joking. This is a man after all who SLANDERED Bono, one of the most selfless and generous philanthropists ever. Ericster08 (talk) 04:54, 25 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Criticism of Bono is not evidence of mental instability. I'm not sure if your description of the pop star is intended to support your argument but it is certainly POV and ineffectual. 75.71.141.40 (talk) 19:33, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


 * My point about slandering Bono was my personal opinion that Baldwin wasn't joking, the same way I believe he wasn't joking about the Anti-Christ remark. I believe he's mentally unstable simply because he ignores facts and logic in the face of religious dogma. The fact that my remark was POV is irrelevant since I didn't attempt to insert it into the article. Furthermore, Beardo asked a question to which there are no certain answers and therefore nothing to add to the article. I offered what I think most reasonable people would say about hardcore fundamentalists who verbalize epithets like "Anti-Christ". Ericster08 (talk) 19:57, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry to break it to you dude, but Bono is a hypocritical egomaniacal lunatic, who appears to have gone far beyond believing his own hype, and now seems to think he is some object of worship. The guy can't even count to four in Spanish for heavens sake! :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.221.241.254 (talk) 23:32, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Many people cannot count in Spanish, especially if that is not the person's native language. I don't see how this is at all relevant to the Stephen Baldwin article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.42.76.202 (talk) 18:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well duh Bono cannot count in Spanish, he's from Ireland! Not many Spanish-speaking people live in Ireland. Anyway, Baldwin left the Catholic Church and became evangelical, losing his credibility with most traditional Christians. He believes God talks to him and he baptised Spencer Pratt. I would say he's unstable. And the view of Obama being the antichrist is not uncommon within the Conservative Fundamentalist Christian groups. --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 23:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Why would leaving the Catholic church to become Evangelical make him lose credibility with traditional Christians? Where is the citation? All Evangelicals are Protestants. It's a well-known movement within the Protestant denomination. He was not really a devout Catholic with his partying lifestyle before. Just because his views are controversial doesn't make him unstable. Azn Clayjar (talk) 14:25, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Links don't verify the information
The last two links in the references do not provide any verification, being elapsed. This is a major flaw, since they relate to precise information about Baldwin's bankruptcy and debts. He is in Big Brother in the UK at the moment, and a lot of people, like myself, will be looking this article up to find out about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.18.67.13 (talk) 14:46, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Playing The What?
Personal life section. Recently added (19:27, 9 July 2010) quote "Stephen is also very talented at playing the tambourine, woodblock and triangle" (no period). My comment on this is: Out of context, strongly implies sarcasm, veiled sarcasm, misplaced satire. No referenced cited. The "tambourine, woodblock and triangle" are simplistic instruments. While someone may have observed the subject of the wikipedia article playing these instruments, the issue seems irrelevant. Recommend removal of statement. WickWax (talk) 07:20, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Eastern Orthodox?
There is a YouTube video which promotes Eastern Orthodox Christianity that is narrated by Stephen Baldwin. Did he convert again? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.234.155.190 (talk) 23:40, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Kirk Cameron's anti-gay comments
I wonder why Stephen Baldwin's defense of Kirk Cameron's anti-gay comments are not referenced in Stephen Baldwin's article? Isn't this fact relevant to Stephen's wiki-article? Below is a video when Stephen Baldwin clarified his stand behind Kirk Cameron's views. Click: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/27/stephen-baldwin-gay-marriage-rosie-odonnell-_n_1382515.html San Francisco Bay Area Native 04:31, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Recent Arrest
Wasn't Stephen recently arrested for failure to file/pay his state taxes?Mylittlezach (talk) 23:03, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

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