Thread:JessicaFin23/@comment-4327179-20191019032149/@comment-4327179-20191019202446

Toonking1985 wrote: Now here are ideas I discussed with Shogunguirus so that you will be up to date with Kitadani and tell me what you think of them: But I also thought there would be a friendly apeman that Kitadani would befriend What do you think? But the others think she should be tanned with black hair What do you think? Shogunguirus: That’s a good start, but I thought maybe her clothing would have some green accents besides just the Tan colour of the garment. Now I'm asking you Jessica what you think are the pros and cons to these ideas?
 * Toonking1985: I'm making an anime series on idea wikia. It takes place in a Ray Harryhausen-esque world where primitive humans and dinosaurs co-exist. It's called Kitadani. And I was wondering if you could help.
 * Shogunguirus: Sure!
 * Toonking1985: To let you know the central theme of the show is survival
 * Shogunguirus: Cool! So it’s essentially about the question of survival
 * Toonking1985: And to let you know the series is influenced by Ray Harryhausen's One Million Years BC, the video game Far Cry Primal, Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal, Quest for Fire, The Rite of Spring, and Primeval World.
 * Shogunguirus: As in like to survive you should be wary of those around you but yet you also have to make sure you are not the last of your kind (because extinction and stuff). So you have to know when to kill and when not to.
 * Toonking1985: And the main character is Kitadani who is a brave 18 year old girl who is willing to do what it takes to survive
 * Shogunguirus: So, what creatures are you including so far?
 * Toonking1985: Like T-Rex, Triceratops, Stegosaurus, Brontosaurus, Raptors, Pterodactyls, Woolly Mammoths, Saber-Toothed Tigers, etc. Now I have this idea that Kitadani would have an animal companion. What animal should it be
 * Shogunguirus: Archaeopteryx
 * Toonking1985: Well I thought her companion should be a creature that could help her with hunting, that she could ride on, and could help her out
 * Shogunguirus: I chose an Archaeopteryx because of a major detail that we mentioned just now: survival is not just about life, it’s also about death. I was thinking maybe Kitadani, despite wanting to survive, wants to be free from all this death and destruction. The Archaeopteryx has wings, and we all know wings represent freedom, hence why I chose the Archaeopteryx. Wait, don’t you think Coolot should vote for which companion idea to choose?
 * Toonking1985: Well he choosed a Microraptor
 * Shogunguirus: Why did he choose the Microraptor, then?
 * Toonking1985: He said just sounds cool
 * Shogunguirus: Seriously?! He did NOT bother to think about the necessities of survival or the theme AT ALL!!! I Guess we could ask him to vote. I’d say you would probably choose a raptor of some kind, Toon. A raptor can hunt, and you can ride on it (probably)!
 * Toonking1985: And why don't we have two companions for Kitadani. Like I think it should be a Velociraptor
 * Shogunguirus: An Archaeopteryx and a Velociraptor! Perfect! Know why? It shows two sides of Kitadani: One side longing for freedom, the other side longing to survive! It’s perfect symbolism! And contrast! As in like freedom from suffering (life) and the desire to survive (death). That type of contrast.
 * Toonking1985: And what do you think should be the names of the Archaeopteryx and the Velociraptor (remember this is set in prehistoric japan and it's a Japanese production)
 * Shogunguirus: The Archaeopteryx will be called Jiyuu (as in freedom) and the Velociraptor will be called Karyuudo (as in hunter). I think the theme would include one line which would be: Karyuudo no Jiyuu (which translates to “the hunter’s freedom”).
 * Toonking1985: And what should be the name of the T-Rex. Remember that it's the terror of the primeval world, the largest and most powerful of the tyrannosaurs, he is red, he looks like the T-Rex from Jurassic Park, he has yellow cat like eyes, and he is inspired by Sharptooth from Land Before Time and T-Rex from Fantasia's Rite of Spring
 * Shogunguirus: The Colossal One
 * Toonking1985: And what do you think the story should be like for the series?
 * Shogunguirus: What if the Colossal One was not only gigantic, but extremely intelligent?
 * Toonking1985: Sure
 * Shogunguirus: Hmmm... story wise... Hm... set in primordial Japan... Also I thought of a weird idea for the location not being in primordial Japan.
 * Toonking1985: Okay but where?
 * Shogunguirus: Since dinosaurs didn’t exist with primordial man... I thought that some other cosmic force actually created this location in space to preserve primordial life from Earth... And that’s where the story takes place. I dunno... it’s just a thought...
 * Toonking1985: I rather stick to primordial Japan. And what do you think Kitadani's tribe should be like?
 * Shogunguirus: I’d say that it would be like after the reign of Himiko (as in the state).
 * Toonking1985: Alright and do you think they should have domesticated creatures. You know like domesticated prehistoric creatures or something?
 * Shogunguirus: Also, for the state, I mean as in after their previous leader died, it’s pretty chaotic, because there’s so much infighting in the tribe for leadership. Also, yes. It would be pretty cool to see these prehistoric creatures as pets.
 * Toonking1985: Like what kinds of prehistoric creatures should they domesticate?
 * Shogunguirus: Hm... baby Mégathériums. Megatheriums. They would be like puppies, if you will.
 * Toonking1985: Do you think their should be a scene in the series with a volcanic eruption
 * Shogunguirus: No.
 * Toonking1985: Well what ideas do you have for the series?
 * Shogunguirus: Even better: a shrine or forge IN the volcano
 * Toonking1985: And do you have any ideas of other tribes?
 * Shogunguirus: Do you think it should be shrine or forge? Also, yes, got ideas for another tribe.
 * Toonking1985: And I think shrine
 * Shogunguirus: I think forge. We’ll let Coolot decide. Also, the tribe I thought of is a satire of religion... So essentially it’s this tribe who have tons of Temples and shrines and statues for their gods everywhere. They worship them almost the entire day. In the end, Kitadani’s tribe takes care of the religious tribe by burning down all their Temples and stuff while they are asleep, causing infighting because they feel like they need the gods to tell them what to do. So, when the tribe is weakened, Kitadani’s tribe invaded their settlement and burns it down. They slaughter the religious tribesmen and enslave them, gouging out their eyes and cutting off their tongues.
 * Toonking1985: I wonder do you think her tribe should be lead by an evil person?
 * Shogunguirus: No. It’s chaotic, remember?
 * Toonking1985: Say Coolot thought of a cult-like tribe
 * Shogunguirus: Oh. Also, Colossal One VS Triceratops or Colossal One VS Stegosaurus?
 * Toonking1985: Do you think it should be something like the Thuggee cult from Indiana Jones? What do you imagine those fights to be like?
 * Shogunguirus: Hey, uh... ya know, remember I came up with a religious tribe that was almost ya know... cult-like?
 * Toonking1985: What do you imagine the fights between the Colossal One, the triceratops, and the stegosaurus to be like?
 * Shogunguirus: I asked you to choose... It... It’s fine...
 * Toonking1985: What if there is a peaceful tribe
 * Shogunguirus: Ya... and then it gets wiped out... Also, did you ask Coolot about the volcano thing yet?
 * Toonking1985: No he is still sleeping
 * Toonking1985: Did you thought of any characters for the series yet?
 * Shogunguirus: ‘Yes! Kitadani’s older brother, who is well-respected in her tribe. He is a candidate for the leader of chief, and he uses cruel and underhanded tactics to get his way. Kitadani is often compared to him, which makes her very frustrated and upset. What do you think?
 * Toonking1985: Alright but what should his name be? And do you think there should be a love interest for Kitadani you know from another tribe?
 * Shogunguirus: Love interest? No.
 * Toonking1985: Like what other characters do you have in mind?
 * Shogunguirus: Remember that religious tribe from earlier? Well, the character I thought of is an elder of that tribe. The elder is very hostile towards change and is stuck in the past and the old ways. He always insults Kitadani, stating that girls don’t have any purpose and can’t fight, they just exist to be married off and bear children. Eventually, Kitadani kills him by slicing off his lower jaw and tongue. It is supposed to be brutal. It’s to show a darker side of Kitadani, the cold-blooded killer within her, despite her not wanting any more death.
 * Toonking1985: And do you think there should be characters around Kitadani's age?
 * Shogunguirus: Yes. I got an idea! Kitadani’s childhood friend. He is the one who teaches her how to hunt and fight. He encourages her to do what she wants to, telling her she is free to choose what she wants. He is later on killed by Kitadani’s older brother.
 * Toonking1985: But have you ever heard of a creature called Gigantopithecus? Well I'm not sure if it should be yeti-like (like in Primal Rage), bigfoot-like, orangutan-like (like in Jungle Book 2016), gorilla-like, or King Kong-like
 * Shogunguirus: Not sure. Also the creature in Jungle Book was a literal orangutan. not a Gigantopithecus.
 * Toonking1985: Well in the 2016 remake he was changed to an orangutan-like Gigantopithecus
 * Shogunguirus: Wait wot
 * Toonking1985: How do you think Gigantopithecus should be portrayed in the series? should it be yeti-like (like in Primal Rage), bigfoot-like, orangutan-like (like in Jungle Book 2016), gorilla-like, or King Kong-like
 * Shogunguirus: Gee... I’m an idiot. Also, not really sure. Hey! I got a new character idea! I got an idea of this evil guy who has a Therizinosaurus. He is good at ambushes and traps and baiting people. His main weapon is a blade that is made from blood crystals. He’s about Kitadani’s age.
 * Toonking1985: Any ideas for female characters?
 * Shogunguirus: Well, remember that religious tribe? Well, I thought of a female slave who was originally from that tribe. She is Kitadani’s older brother’s personal slave, and is constantly abused by him, even to the point where he rapes her. She is killed by the Therizinosaurus guy, but Kitadani’s best friend is framed for it.
 * Toonking1985: Any other ideas for female characters?
 * Shogunguirus: Kitadani’s mother! Also, I got info about her. She used to be a slave, who was constantly abused and raped by Kitadani’s father, but eventually they developed a healthy relationship (it’s a contrast to the previous relationship I mentioned). When Kitadani’s father died, she takes care of Kitadani and her older brother, teaching them language and stuff. She commits suicide in an attempt to get Kitadani’s older brother to stop abusing the female slave.
 * Toonking1985: Also I have an idea of a tribe of apemen they are a violent and savage tribe, humans and apemen have been at war with each other from a long time
 * Shogunguirus: Sure!
 * Toonking1985: Also about Gigantopithecus do you think it should walk on two-legs (like yeti and bigfoot) or on four legs (like apes)?
 * Shogunguirus: Both.
 * Toonking1985: And what do you think it's design should be like? And I wonder if this apemen tribe should worship Gigantopithecus as their god or something
 * Shogunguirus: 1. Not sure 2. Yes sure
 * Toonking1985: I personally think Gigantopithecus should be King Kong-like, while Coolot think it should be gorilla-like, and some others think it should be orangutan-like What do you think?
 * Shogunguirus: Hybrid.
 * Toonking1985: A hybrid of what?
 * Shogunguirus: All the ideas all of you thought of.
 * Toonking1985: any new ideas
 * Shogunguirus: What if there was a creature bigger than the Colossal One?
 * Toonking1985: I don't know like what is this creature?
 * Shogunguirus: I dunno...
 * Toonking1985: How but a Spinosaurus or Giganotosaurus but even still the Colossal One is more powerful than them
 * Shogunguirus: True... Unless... It’s an alien
 * Toonking1985: What do you think Kitadani should look like?
 * Shogunguirus: Hm... how do you imagine her to look?
 * Toonking1985: I imagine her to look like this: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dr-stone/images/a/a2/Kohaku_Anime_Profile.png/revision/latest?cb=20190816215803
 * Shogunguirus: How tanned?
 * Toonking1985: you know natural tanned skin You know tan coloured skin
 * Shogunguirus: Tanned with black hair, yo.
 * Toonking1985: And do you remember when I said that prehistoric creatures would be domesticated by Kitadani's tribe? Well I think the would be used as beasts of burden you know like the horse aliens and the banshees from Avatar
 * Shogunguirus: Oh... also did you ask Coolot about the volcano thing?
 * Toonking1985: No not yet but what should I ask him?
 * Shogunguirus: Tell him that the both of us thought of an idea where there was something in a volcano, but we couldn’t decide between a shrine or a forge, so we want him to decide.
 * Toonking1985: Coolot said "Shrine, it can tie into my cult tribe idea"
 * Shogunguirus: I’m back! Oh! He said shrine! Sure, then! Also what his cult idea?
 * Toonking1985: He pictures they worship some sort of dinosaur What do you think?
 * Shogunguirus: Oh wait... he means the cult tribe Um... dude? Remember that religious tribe I came up with... Um... religious and cult are pretty similar... Tell Coolot we can come to a compromise: the thing in the volcano will be a shrine with a secret forge area. And, the religious tribe I came up with will be mashed together with the cult tribe he thought of.
 * Shogunguirus: Also what weapons do you think Kitadani will possess?
 * Toonking1985: A spear, Blades, A KNIFE
 * Shogunguirus: An obsidian blade (that’s why I mentioned the volcano forge). Also, yup. Spear is needed. Maybe it’s Kitadani’s father’s spear. Wait... got an idea for the knife. Remember that elder from the cult tribe? I imagine she uses the sacrifice knife to kill the elder himself, thus bringing the idea of the sacrifice full circle (as in you sacrifice someone to your god, someone else sacrifices you to your own god). You know, that brutal cut-off-the-lower-jaw-and-tongue thing.
 * Toonking1985: Do you think this show should be dialouge-less (like in Primal) or should the characters speak in primitave tongue (like in One Million Years BC), or should there be a narrator who tells the story, or should the characters speak in the show's country's native tongue (in Japan)
 * Shogunguirus: Japanese. Ever seen AoT? Even though they speak Eldian (which doesn’t exist) the anime uses Japanese.
 * Toonking1985: Do you think there should be a narrator for the series?
 * Shogunguirus: Nope.
 * Toonking1985: And I have an idea for a scene where a carnivore attacks and it's inspired by this scene from One Million Years BC watch this clip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2bgeq6hAlU&t)
 * Shogunguirus: Oh... ‘Also, what cloths do you expect Kitadani to wear?
 * Toonking1985: Similar to what the characters in Dr. Stone wear
 * Toonking1985: Now what carnivore do you think it should be?
 * Shogunguirus: A Carnotaurus.
 * Toonking1985: And what tribe should it attack?
 * Shogunguirus: Hm... a completely new one?
 * Toonking1985: And should Kitadani aid in fighting the Carnotaurus
 * Shogunguirus: We need to think of more ideas!!! Nope. I got the perfect idea for how to execute this. So, it starts off, when Kitadani is fleeing, and then she comes across this tribe, which is eating their dinner. Kitadani is about to approach them, when Karyuudo stops her, implying that they might be dangerous. Then, they hear a deafening roar. When the tribesmen go to check it out, they don’t come back.
 * Toonking1985: And do you think there should be fanservice in this series? Or no
 * Shogunguirus: Then, a mutilated corpse comes flying out from some greenery. The tribesmen prépare their weapons, and Kitadani gets ready her spear. They wait, and wait... and then one of them walks over to find the other tribesmen, when he gets pulled into the greenery. He screams, as the trees start to fall. Also, no fan service. The campfire the tribe created starts igniting all the trees and stuff. Kitadani is cornered by the flames and cannot escape. The Carnotaurus jumps out of the flames and starts attacking the tribe, devouring them brutally. Kitadani readies her spear, ready to launch it towards the Carnotaurus. Just as she aims it, Karyuudo slams her onto the ground, knocking her unconscious and stopping her from helping the tribesmen. It it implied that Karyuudo does this because he is afraid the tribesmen will betray Kitadani after she saves them. When Kitadani wakes up, she finds that it is morning, and the fire has extinguished. She is upset towards Karyuudo, as she feels that even if they betrayed her, there were still the innocent people, such as children and etc.
 * Toonking1985: That raptor sounds protective
 * Shougunguirus: The raptor is intent on Kitadani surviving at all costs, so he’s essentially like a caretaker, while the Archaeopteryx is carefree, like she’s the good buddy Kitadani needs. When Kitadani wakes up, Karyuudo is scavenging the corpse of a child, which proves Kitadani’s point.
 * Toonking1985: What do you think the story of the first episode should be about?
 * Shogunguirus: Hm... Maybe we should start with Kitadani’s childhood for the first few episodes. Hm... maybe Kitadani’s father died heroically when fighting the Colossal One.
 * Toonking1985: Good idea. And I think the raptor would not eat human meat. Like Kitadani would train her not to eat human meat
 * Shogunguirus: I think it would eat a bit. It would usually not eat human meat because it was trained not to, but when resources are limited, it will eat human meat. I got another idea.
 * Toonking1985: What is it? And what do you think should be the gender of the archeopteryx and the raptor?
 * Shogunguirus: Kitadani’s mother tells Kitadani’s older brother that their father was a natural and great leader, telling the older brother to be like the father. But, the mother meant great leader meant as in a leader who understands his followers and knows how to lead them properly, while the older brother believes that great leader means a leader who leads the biggest tribe, the one who has the most accomplishments, thus leading him into the character we see him as throughout most of the series. Also, the Archaeopterryx is female while the raptor is male.
 * Toonking1985: Cool. And do you have any ideas for either male characters or female characters?
 * Shogunguirus: Remember that tribe which got attacked by the Carnotaurus? Well, the character I came up with is a boy who managed to escape that Attack. He is about 10 years old. Kitadani takes pity on him, as well as feeling regret for not being able to save his tribe, and teaches him how to fight. He is a main character. He learns about Kitadani’s regrets, and comforts her. Even though Kitadani is his mentor, he in turn, also teaches Kitadani some life lessons and gives her moral support.
 * Toonking1985: And I have this idea of a hermit old man who lives in the wild what do you think? He co-exists with nature he is like a human version of Rafiki. What do you think?
 * Shogunguirus: Sure!
 * Toonking1985: By the way I imagine the raptor to look like Blue from Jurassic World what do you think?
 * Shogunguirus: Hm... Why not?
 * Toonking1985: And I also have this idea that the score for the series will be influenced by the score for Waterworld. Take a listen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ2MVkd-lzY&list=PLpJVUxlDbsfeWG8kUrIyAAFfzrWDOP5sq
 * Shogunguirus: It sounds ... primordial.
 * Toonking1985: I know right
 * Shogunguirus: Also, I thought of another idea for the score. Each character has their own instrument in the score that relates to them (for example, Kitadani’s instrument would probably be the piano, but the Colossal One’s would be a bass guitar).
 * Toonking1985: By the way how big do you think the Colossal One should be?
 * Shogunguirus: Hm... 10m (The height of a T-Rex was 3.6m)
 * Toonking1985: What kind of prehistoric creatures do you think should be like the horses to Kitadani's tribe?
 * Shogunguirus: Not sure. And how do you think the score should be used? Should the series be musical-esque or should the score be like a background thing to convey the mood of the moment?
 * Toonking1985: Score be like a background thing to convey the mood of the moment. Do you think the Colossal One should have scars or no scars?
 * Shogunguirus: Yes scars
 * Toonking1985: Do you think there should be a tribe that lives in the treetops?
 * Shogunguirus: Sure!
 * Toonking1985: Now I have this idea that this tree tribe rides of Pterosaurs what do you think?
 * Shogunguirus: Sure!
 * Toonking1985: And do you think there should be comedic moments in the series
 * Shogunguirus: No.
 * Toonking1985: Now what kinds of giant creatures do you think should appear in the series
 * Shogunguirus: Hm... the titanoboa!
 * Toonking1985: So what ideas of villains do you have the series?
 * Shogunguirus: Well... There is the Leviathan. I have info on it.
 * Toonking1985: What ideas do you have for this Leviathan?
 * Shogunguirus: Originally, all the tribes were one tribe united, known as the Primordials. Their Guardian was the beast known as the Leviathan. However, as infighting began, the Primordials split into all these different tribes, and as the Leviathan no longer had a purpose, it was forced into sleep deep under a underwater shrine. When the Leviathan awakens, it starts destroying all these tribes to get the remaining ones to form the New Primordials. This, of course, fails. As in like, it causes more fighting. What do you think?
 * Toonking1985: What will the Leviathan look like?
 * Shogunguirus: It will look like a giant, colossal fish-and-plesiosaur-like dragon. It can grow long, thick tendrils from any part of its body that can be used for a variety of purposes. It has a shell on its back with tall, thin spikes. I thought of a great idea for this creature. Remember how the Leviathan was forced to its slumber underwater? A young girl did that. You want to know why I bring this up? I thought of this idea where in the first episode Leviathan is referenced. Kitadani’s mother tells her about the tale of the girl and the Leviathan as a bedtime story, telling Kitadani that she should be like the young girl: proactive, caring, and a natural leader. In the episode when Kitadani first sees the Leviathan, she has a flashback to that story her mother told her.
 * Toonking1985: Do you think the concept of Kitadani during her childhood should be flashbacks?
 * Shogunguirus: Also, no childhood being flashbacks. In order for us to understand a character, we first need to understand their upbringing.